Ex-Christadelphians: 2013

Corky & John on Evolution

Corky

By Corky

It has always been clear to me that the authors of the Jewish scriptures did not have evolution in mind, period - "Evolutionary Creationism" or otherwise. Everything was created in the past tense, literally instantaneously...you know, like magic, like pulling a rabbit from a hat.

Miley Cyrus has caught
Ken Gilmore's attention

By Ken Gilmore and Miley Cyrus

Editor's Note: Ken has kindly agreed to allow us republish articles from his blog again, for which I thank him. But what's even better news is that he is now going to write articles that we can publish on subjects of a broader apologetic focus . This will give us the opportunity to discuss the issues that he raises and to determine if we agree with his arguments.

By Ex-Christadelphian Credo Quia Absurdum

Christadelphians claim to be able to offer hope. But is their hope merely hype?

"Hope for a hopeless world" is a commonly used lecture theme, and the title of a rather out-dated pamphlet written by the late Fred Pearce, which you can read online.

Our Mission

To reflect our new focus on Christadelphian young people, 'Our Mission' page has been revised and rewritten.

Christmas Day Special Bonus - Turning the World Upside Down - Six Articles On The Role of Women in the Church

By Ex-Christadelphian Peter Baylis

PART 1: JESUS’ ATTITUDE TO WOMEN

By David Pearce

As author of the booklet (Evidence for Design) I would like to reply to my (anonymous) critic.

Sadly, his/her review is full of errors.

By Credo Quia Absurdum

I would like to rise Bernard Burt’s “final challenge” of the hand out “Trial by Prophecy” listing 11 Bible prophecies which man has (apparently) been unable to overturn.

Editor's Note: I posted this from Bernard, for a few hours, a couple of days ago, hoping that Ken Gilmore would take aim at it. Then I deleted it.

But I acted too soon and tonight Ken put a few rounds on the target on his Facebook page as follows:

By Mancott

It was Sunday in a small town Ecclesia, it had fallen on a bright Christmas Day
The President said "Now please bow your heads we are just now a-goin` to pray"

By Ken Gilmore
Source: Click here.

Nigel Bernard, co-author of the YEC cover article in the Nov 2013 issue of The Christadelphian elected not to employ Don Pearce’s ill-fated strategy of trying to attack the science behind radiometric dating.

Contributed by an Ex-Christadelphian

This is from a recent edition of 'The Lampstand'

A critical response to Don Pearce's Dec 2013 response to criticism of his Nov 2013 article - 3

By Ken Gilmore. Source: Click here.

Editor's Note:

Whilst I stand aside from the Theistic content of what follows, it is still a brilliant article with some well reasoned argument by Ken.

An illustration of a protocell,

By Gert Korthof Source: Click here.

Our thanks to Ken Gilmore for finding this article.

By Ken Gilmore. Source: Click here.

Editor's Note: More from the keyboard of Christadelphian Doctor Ken Gilmore. The Christadelphian community have never seen anything like it. He's singlehandedly dragging them into the 21st Century.

This is my third comment on the Christadelphian office Facebook page. The previous two were deleted.

It's in answer to Peter, who questioned me about something.

Here is my latest comment on the CD magazine Facebook page. Please 'Like' my comment there and join the discussion.

Like my previous comment they may have deleted or hid it by now. But don't be deterred; answer my comment as if it were still showing.

VIDEO: How we found out evolution is true: John van Wyhe at TEDxNTU

Thanks to Ken Gilmore for finding this great video

The Christadelphian Office on Facebook (1)

The Facebook page of the Christadelphian office (click here) is a collection of shallow platitudes, mixed with a smug, holier-than-thou attitude that judges everyone except Christadelphians. It appears to be intended as some sort of encouragement to the elderly and those with very little intelligence.

By Mancott

A very good overview of Bart Erhman`s book "Forged" can be found by Googling:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forged

By Ken Gilmore. Source: Click here.

Editor's Note: I don't agree with the Theistic content of this article, but as we have an ever increasing number of Theist Christadelphians reading our website, this piece should be of interest to them.

By Jerry Coyne Source: Click here.

A new paper in Nature by Heng Li and Richard Durbin contains estimates of the “effective population size” of our ancestors at different points in evolutionary time.

Young Earth Creationism in the November 2013 edition of The Christadelphian Magazine

By Ken Gilmore. Source: Click here.

I’ve already commented on how The Testimony has sunk to a new low with the publication in the November 2013 edition of an anti-evolution article that employed the intellectually and morally dishonest practice of quote mining in its attacks on evolutionary biology.

By Geri

I'm reminded of the film The Truman Show, where a man spends his whole life growing up on a film set thinking that where he lived was real life.

The pagan cosmology of Genesis

Click here to read the first part of this series of articles. They need to be read in the correct numbered sequence to be best understood.

Genesis Chapter 1 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

"6 And God said, ‘Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.’ 7 So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. 8 God called the dome Sky............................

I have decided to evolve the blog in a slightly new direction.

I'm dropping the 'Unbelievers' tag, because one of our admins and many of our authors, commenters and readers are not Unbelievers. It seems unnecessary to let them to feel uncomfortable using a resource that does not accurately portray their thinking and beliefs.

Contributed by Geri

I just visited the Christadelphian Home School UK site

http://www.christadelphianschooling.co.uk/default.asp

and found this quote;

This is the first of a series of articles showing how the authors of the Biblical book of Genesis borrowed many of their key themes and stories from writings of pagan priests and storytellers of the surrounding nations of the Ancient Near East (ANE).

The pagan cuneiform inscriptions containing these myths are up to two and a half thousand years older than the earliest possible date of the origin of Genesis.

I was shocked today when a correspondent alerted me to the fact that the Christadelphian Office (CMPA) are still proudly publishing a total of fourteen books and booklets authored by their disgraced former editor, Michael Ashton.

In 2011 Brother Ashton was accused of allegedly stealing hundreds of thousands of pounds from Christadelphians during his decade as editor of the Christadelphian magazine. According to the CMPA he admitted these actions. He was disfellowshiped by his ecclesia for this behaviour, for "Conduct unbecoming of a Brother of Christ."

The size of Heaven's aid offering to the Philippines
has sparked mixed feelings from its citizens

Heaven is sending $0,000,000.00 (£0,000,000.00) to the Philippines to help with the aid effort following Typhoon Haiyan.

Heaven had been criticised for its pledge - a fraction of that committed by other major nations.

Click "More" for the answer

Quote mining and intellectual dishonesty in the Nov 2013 Testimony Magazine - By Ken Gilmore

Editor's Note: Yet another brilliant article from Ken. Readers are recommended to read his blog avidly. Ken: let me know if you want me to delete this article. But we can get up to 2,500 or more page views for each of your articles and it would be a pity to not get through to those readers. Moreover our readers are your target audience.

Source: http://christadelphianevolution.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/quite-mining-and-intellectual.html

Pinocchio writes for Peterborough Christadelphians

From the Peterborough Christadelphians website: Click here for source.

Click "More" to discover why Pinocchio is lying.

'Creation or Evolution' is a new E-book published by the Christadelphian office (CMPA). The book has previously available as a hard copy. It is intended to be used as a preaching booklet.

The author, John Hellawell, is a trustee of the CMPA. He is a Young Earth Creationist who does not believe in Evolution.

Building blocks of life could be formed on comets

Written by Andrew Bissette
PhD student at University of Oxford

No one knows how life began on Earth. But for it to happen, some simple chemical building blocks would have been needed.

Young Earth Creationism
and Flood Geology
explained to Jake Douglas
by a Christadelphian relative

Email us if you would like to read a copy of this article written by our brave young martyr.

We were forced to withdraw it following coercion on young Jake from his relatives, who did not want him expressing his own opinion on the religion.

Ex-Christadelphians@Hotmail.com

Another of our young Christadelphian authors found by the CDs

This is what happens, when they are found, to the courageous youngsters from Christadelphian families who dare to write for us to express their thinking about religion and the Bible.

This is why we have been obliged to delete Jake Douglas's article.

This is how weak and insecure the Christadelphians really are.

http://www.fuudai.com/project_detail.php?id=1344577&lang=english

Jonathan
Burke

To win your free copy of Jonathan's new book, simply write an article of more than 500 words for us on the subject: "Why I am losing my faith." The writers of the best articles will receive free hard copies of the book from us, together with free postage. If they have a tablet computer we will give them an additional E-Book version of the book free of charge.

Who wrote the following?

"John Collyer has written one of the worst anti-evolution books ever produced by a Christadelphian writer. Unfortunately, it is sold by both the Testimony Magazine and the Christadelphian Magazine and Publishing Association, giving its nonsensical views broad access into our community."

Modern science is a highly complex subject and we appreciate that some people might find our articles and videos difficult to understand.

On this page you can ask any questions you like, about any aspect of Science and Evolution and we will give you an answer.

Click to buy this book

Jonathan Burke is a theist and therefore by definition I don't agree with much of what he writes. I have previously noted some of this book's shortcomings on this blog.

However you have to look at things relatively and relative to the unbounded nonsense published by the Christadelphian office, the ALS, the Bible Mission, the Logos, Testimony magazine and other Christadelphianspublishers - Jonathan's book is superb. It is a milestone in Christadelphian publishing and one of the most significant books published in our community since the days of Dr Thomas.

Brian Greene explains why our Universe was NOT fine tuned for life by God

Comment of the week from Cindy

To me, who was brought up a Christadelphian and was baptized one in my mid 20's but have since left, I feel that does it really matter if people do or do not believe God created the earth or started the evolutionary process (the later is which I swing towards) or not.

Christadelphian thinking about latter day
prophecy has been turned upside down

The news that Russia is planning a huge new naval base in Egypt will have Christadelphians turning their Middle East maps upside down.

Click here for details.

For one hundred and sixty five years Christadelphians have told the world that Russia is the "King of the North" and now it looks like Russian President Putin is going to be the "King of the South."

Comment of the Week - From Mancott

I was indoctrinated into CDism from the cradle. I believed in it as fervently as I believed in Santa Claus. Then Santa Claus was revealed as my dad creeping into my bedroom with presents early on Christmas day.

- Discuss

Surtsey Proves that God did NOT Create the Earth

Surtsey is a volcanic island off the southern coast of Iceland. It was formed in a volcanic eruption which began 130 metres (426 ft) below sea level, and reached the surface on 14 November 1963. The eruption lasted until 5 June 1967, when the island reached its maximum size of 2.7 km (1.0 sq mi). Since then, wind and wave erosion have caused the island to steadily diminish in size.

The Christadelphians are once again displaying their scientific ignorance; this time in an article by Nigel Bernard and Don Pearce published in the November 2013 Christadelphian magazine.

Entitled "Surtsey: a pattern for creation?" It recounts the story of the creation of the volcanic island of Surtsey in 1963 off the coast of Iceland in the North Atlantic. The authors say of this event:

"The rate at which geological features formed on the island provide some supporting evidence that the time scale of Genesis, with six days of creation followed by six thousand years of human activity, is not as unrealistic as is sometimes claimed."

Written by Paul Bedson

Source: The Gazette of the Association for the Protection of Lebanese Heritage (APLH), "Of Men And Ruins" Issue 2, October 2013.

Editor's Note: Ezekiel chapters 28 & 31 lend some credence to the idea that the Garden of Eden was located in Lebanon.

Ex-Christadelphians will be meeting up again with Lawrence Krauss, next Sunday 3 November, when he visits Sydney Opera House for the Australian premiere screening of his new movie 'The Unbelievers.' You can also meet with Lawrence in Canberra Australia 5 November and watch the movie. Email me ex-Christadelphians@hotmail.com for details of what we have planned.

Why 'Wrested Scriptures' is Wrong on Evolution - By Ken Gilmore - Parts 1 - 6

By Ken Gilmore

(Editor's Note: Ken is Christadelphian Theist, NOT an Ex-Christadelphian. He does not support or condone the Atheist position of this website and we do not support or condone his Theism. Nevertheless there remains a considerable amount of agreement between us and we consider his work to be of the utmost value)

The following is in five parts with the references given after each part; so keep reading after each section of references.

Yesterday, Lord Singh of Wimbledon spoke on BBC Radio 4's morning religion spot, "Thought for the day".

Download podcast here: Lord Singh 23/10/13 (3 mins, 2Mb)

Written by Jerry Coyne

Of course most of you will answer “No way!”, and I do, too, but accommodationists and science-friendly believers make this argument often. Here are a few specimens:

Texas publishers refuse to include Creationism in science textbooks

In a victory for science education and the children of Texas, publishers are refusing to include creationism in science textbooks despite fierce pressure from conservative Christians.
Click here for more.

Heritage College Birmingham Parents & Students Beware!

It Ain't Necessarily So

Oppose Christadelphian Heritage College Birmingham

It is proposed to create a fund to oppose the creation of the Christadelphian Heritage College faith school in Birmingham UK.

The money will be used to lobby decision makers to advise them of the reasons for our opposition and also to place large advertisements in Birmingham newspapers warning parents and students of the Christadelphians' intention to "preach" to them and to their children at the school.

How Evolution Works

Thanks to Adam for recommending this video

Nigerian Email Scam

dear mister sir
my name is Jesus Happy John Thomas Bockawawa. i work for Nigerian Export Bank counting much money.

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